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MCGINTY Edward John

MCGINTY Edward John

Male 1863 - 1930  (67 years)

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  1. 1.  MCGINTY Edward JohnMCGINTY Edward John was born 28 Jan 1863, Fitzroy VIC (son of MCGINTY Joseph and WESTWOOD Alice Maria Selina); died 14 Feb 1930, New Plymouth, Taranaki NZ; was buried 15 Feb 1930, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, Taranaki NZ.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Warehouseman, Publican
    • _UID: 2D3F018C66D5476A87A5BEA11AEB9E5C6F2F
    • Emigration: Bef 1908, From Melbourne
    • Residence: 14 Feb 1930, 291 Courtenay Street, New Plymouth NZ; : 67y

    Notes:

    Edward John McGINTY (1863-1930) emigrated to New Zealand at times unknown, but prior to 1908.

    Source: Codicil to the will of Joseph McGINTY, his father, leaving him £100, says that he is living in Wellington NZ.

    Owned a hotel in New Plymouth (Taranaki) NZ. This hotel was burnt to the ground in the late 1950s.

    Edward McGINTY was convicted of perjury (on behalf of his wife who was the licensee of a hotel in Melbourne) and sentenced to 5 years gaol with hard labour. The Victorian Index to Prisoners CD reveal the following: Edward McGINTY, page 384, male prisoners. Edward McGINTY, wife Mrs E. McGINTY in NZ, Edward McGINTY, Prisoner No: 28950. To freedom by remission: 8 Jun 1903.

    Emigration:
    Into Place: NZ

    Residence:
    Place of residence at time of death.

    Buried:
    Unmarked grave.

    Edward married CHURLEY Helen Sinclair 1887, NZ. Helen was born Abt 1869, Dunedin NZ; died 23 Apr 1934, New Plymouth, Taranaki NZ; was buried 25 Apr 1934, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, Taranaki NZ. [Group Sheet]

    Notes:

    Married:
    Strangely, there are two index entries for this marriage in the NZ Marriages Index:
    1. 1888/861
    2. 1887/1613


    Children:
    1. MCGINTY Helen Sinclair was born Abt 1890, Balmain NSW; died 19 Jul 1929, Willoughby NSW; was buried Jul 1929, Macquarie Park Cemetery and Crematorium, North Ryde NSW.
    2. MCGINTY Alice Maud was born 8 May 1890, Balmain North NSW; died 12 Sep 1975, NZ.
    3. MCGINTY Bernard Leith was born 31 Jan 1892, Ashfield NSW; died 4 Aug 1960, Auckland NZ.
    4. MCGINTY Cleveland Westwood was born 1898, Ashfield NSW; died 14 Mar 1963, Auckland NZ.
    5. MCGINTY Edward Beverley was born 28 May 1909, Wellington NZ; died 9 Apr 1980, Whangarei, Northland NZ; was buried 11 Apr 1980, Maunu Cemetery, Whangarei NZ.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  MCGINTY Joseph was born Apr 1833, Athboy MEA (son of MCGINTY Edward and POTTERTON Rose); died 20 Mar 1908, 107 Gertrude Street, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 22 Mar 1908, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Police Constable/Estate Agent and Auctioneer
    • _UID: A68B1EFCFDA74314A62ADAEDBF5B500E551E
    • Immigration: Bef 1856, possibly from NZ

    Notes:

    A police constable in Victoria for some years. Dishonourably discharged from the force for having a pecuniary interest in a hotel. Became an Estate Agent/Auctioneer in Gertude Street, Fitzroy VIC.
    ____
    Known to be the owner of the Euterpe Hotel in 1871 as Margaret Maria Theresa DONOVAN (Madame LACHAL) was running it for him. (Her divorce papers)

    Occupation:
    No. 835, Constable Joseph McGINTY - dismissed from the Police Force. Police Gazette, 13 Feb 1871. His offence was 'having a percuniary interest in the Enterpe Hotel in Swanston Street South and persisting in a false evasive and dishonourable course for the purpose of concealing the fact from his superior officers.' Date of dismissal: 10 Feb 1872.

    Buried:
    MGC-RC-Comp-H-No-39

    Joseph married WESTWOOD Alice Maria Selina Nov 1859, Williamstown VIC. Alice (daughter of WESTWOOD John James and ROACH Mary) was born Abt 1844, Sydney NSW; died 16 Jan 1883, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 17 Jan 1883, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  WESTWOOD Alice Maria Selina was born Abt 1844, Sydney NSW (daughter of WESTWOOD John James and ROACH Mary); died 16 Jan 1883, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 17 Jan 1883, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Alice Maria Selina McGINTY
    • _UID: EFECF02A28D14835B94D49394D56C2348C32

    Notes:

    Buried:
    MGC-RC-Comp-H-No-39

    Children:
    1. MCGINTY Rose Mary was born 13 Feb 1861, St. Kilda VIC; died 2 Apr 1891, Melbourne Hospital, Melbourne VIC; was buried 7 Apr 1891, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    2. 1. MCGINTY Edward John was born 28 Jan 1863, Fitzroy VIC; died 14 Feb 1930, New Plymouth, Taranaki NZ; was buried 15 Feb 1930, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, Taranaki NZ.
    3. MCGINTY Joseph Westwood William Francis was born 25 Mar 1865, Fitzroy VIC; died 14 Dec 1908, 107 Gertrude Street, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 16 Dec 1908, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    4. MCGINTY Alice Maud Selina was born 14 May 1867, Collingwood VIC; died 25 Mar 1906, St. Vincent's Hospital, South Fitzroy VIC; was buried Mar 1906, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    5. MCGINTY Herbert Andrew Richard was born Abt 1869, Collingwood VIC; died Nov 1875, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 24 Nov 1875, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    6. MCGINTY Nina Constance Katherine was born Abt 1873, Collingwood VIC; died 1 Dec 1874, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 2 Dec 1874, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    7. MCGINTY Margot Leone Celestine, (Twin) was born 22 Mar 1875, Collingwood VIC; died 11 Jun 1910, Heidelberg VIC; was buried Jun 1910, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    8. MCGINTY Marie Louise Jacqueline, (twin) was born 22 Mar 1875, Collingwood VIC; died 1952, Kew VIC.
    9. MCGINTY Albert was born May 1877, Collingwood VIC; died 5 Jun 1877; was buried 6 Jun 1877, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  MCGINTY Edward was born Abt 1798, Athboy MEA (son of MCGINTY Andrew and COMMINS Catherine); died 11 Aug 1871, Rowena Parade, Richmond VIC; was buried 13 Aug 1871, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Bootmaker
    • _UID: ECECEF4B45CC4EC09250D773BFA49D308D9C
    • Emigration: 7 Jan 1863, Liverpool LAN

    Notes:

    Surname sometimes GINTY, GENTY or GUNTY without the 'Mc'.

    Emigration:
    Aboard the 'Tornado' which arrived at Port Phillip VIC on 2 Apr 1863.
    Into Place: Port Phillip VIC

    Edward married POTTERTON Rose 18 Jun 1826, Kildalkey MEA. Rose (daughter of POTTERTON Henry) was born Abt 1810, Kildalkey MEA; died 8 Mar 1864, Dublin IRE. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  POTTERTON Rose was born Abt 1810, Kildalkey MEA (daughter of POTTERTON Henry); died 8 Mar 1864, Dublin IRE.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Rose McGINTY
    • _UID: 36F98879C05A4E29AEBC7297F2CF6661BC7C

    Notes:

    Died:
    It is believed that Rose McGINTY (m.n. POTTERTON) died in Ireland before her husband Edward and the remaining children emigrated to Australia in 1863.

    Children:
    1. MCGINTY John M. was born Abt 1827, Athboy MEA; died Nov 1894, South Fitzroy VIC; was buried 29 Nov 1894, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    2. MCGINTY Mary was born Abt 1829, Athboy MEA; died 7 Aug 1914, 82 Budd Street, Collingwood VIC; was buried 8 Aug 1914, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    3. MCGINTY Andrew was born Abt 1830, Athboy MEA; died 19 May 1865, 160 Cambridge Street, Collingwood VIC; was buried 20 May 1865, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    4. 2. MCGINTY Joseph was born Apr 1833, Athboy MEA; died 20 Mar 1908, 107 Gertrude Street, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 22 Mar 1908, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    5. MCGINTY Edward was born Abt 1836, Athboy MEA; died Bef 1872.
    6. MCGINTY Catherine was born 3 Mar 1839, Athboy MEA; died Sep 1924, Northcote VIC; was buried 19 Sep 1924, Brighton General Cemetery, Caulfield South VIC.
    7. MCGINTY Michael was born Abt 1839, Athboy MEA; died Bef 1872.
    8. MCGINTY Rose was born Abt 1842, Athboy MEA; died Cal Apr 1905, Richmond VIC; was buried 4 Apr 1905, Boroondara General Cemetery, Kew VIC.
    9. MCGINTY Terence was born Abt 1845, Athboy MEA; died Yes, date unknown.
    10. MCGINTY Theresa Mary was born Abt 1847, Athboy MEA; died 21 Apr 1920, Lewisham NSW; was buried 22 Apr 1920, Rookwood General Cemetery, Rookwood NSW.

  3. 6.  WESTWOOD John JamesWESTWOOD John James was born 22 Dec 1808, Huddersfield YKS (son of WESTWOOD John and GLEDHILL Alice); died 25 May 1845, Sydney NSW; was buried 27 May 1845, Sandhills (Devonshire Street) Cemetery), Sydney NSW.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Face Drawer/Japan Lacquerware Maker/Soldier (Sgt.)
    • _UID: F9D57B7937D24242B4A31D41F38D21AB50D2
    • Baptism: 25 Dec 1808, St. Peter's Anglican Church, Huddersfield YKS
    • Military: Between 16 Dec 1825 and 25 May 1845, England, Ireland, Mauritius and Australia; Served with the 99th. Regiment of Foot, British Army.
    • Emigration: 2 May 1842, Dublin IRE aboard the 'Isabella Watson'.; : 33y

    Notes:

    On 16 December 1825 John James WESTWOOD, born Huddersfield YKS, trade - Face Drawer, aged 16 years, height 5' 4 1/2", enlisted in the 99th. Regiment of Foot at Bury in Lancashire. The regiment was at this time based in Ireland, but a number of recruiting detachments were sent to England, one of which was successful in recruiting Westwood. The successful detachment was based in Manchester and it made a number of two-day marches to nearby towns. He was paid a bounty of £4 on joining, with 16/- additional "bringing" money, possibly paid to a person who actually brought him to attest. His pay on enlistment was 1/- a day.

    From December 1825 to December 1826 he was a private, stationed at Birr in Ireland. From December 1826 to June 1827 at Clare Castle; from June to September 1827 at Ennis; from September 1827 to September 1828 at Youghal; from September 1828 to September 1829 at Charles Fort, Kinale; from September 1829 to December 1830 at Clare Castle; from January 1831 to December 1831 at Naas; from January 1832 to June 1832 at Armagh; from July 1832 to April 1833 at Drogheda. He served during all this period on various small detachments stationed in smaller outposts in Ireland. He was granted a furlough from 28 August to 10 October 1832. On 9 May 1833 he embarked for service overseas.

    On 7 September 1833 he disembarked at Flacq, Mauritius where he served until December 1833. From January 1834 to March 1835 he was stationed at Mahibourg, Mauritius where he served briefly in the Band. In April 1835 he moved to Port Louis, Mauritius where on 13 July of the same year he was promoted to Corporal. He remained at Port Louis until 14 June 1837 when he embarked for the return journey to Ireland. It is interesting to note that he acted as Regimental Harp for five days in March 1837. While in transit to Ireland on July 1837 he was promoted to Sergeant.

    He disembarked at Cork on 5 October 1837. Between that time and March 1839 he was variously based at Fermoy where he probably met his future wife, Mary ROACH, Kilkenny, Templemore and Athlone, engaged on detachment and escort duties. During this period many new recruits were enlisted. On 15 May 1839 Westwood was convicted on a charge of embezzlement, the penalty being reduction to the ranks and three months confinement. The entry relating to his return to duty appears to read "In Imprisonment by Court Martial" for 3 Calendar Months. Imprisonment commenced 21 May, released 20 August.

    From September 1839 he served as a private at Athlone and Dublin until September 1841. While in Dublin, he acted as Town Major's Adjutant and he received a 25 day furlough. In October 1841 he was transferred to Chatham, and on 4 November of the same year he was awarded a Good Conduct Badge. On 1 May 1842 he departed from Dublin for New South Wales aboard the "Isabella Watson", Master John A. MCDONALD, Surgeon Robert BOWER. On arrival in Hobart on 3 August 1842, 195 convicts were landed two having died and four having been put ashore in South Africa after a mutiny and disciplinary problems among the soldiers and convicts. It was a very fast passage for 1842 at 94 days. The 80 soldiers and their families restarted their journey on 20 August 1842 bound for Sydney.

    He disembarked at Sydney on 28 August 1842 and rejoined his regiment the following day. His first base was at Illawarra from September 1842 to March 1843. From 1843 to June 1844 he was stationed at Parramatta but served some of this period at both Illawarra or at Newcastle. On 1 April 1843 while again on detachment at Illawarra he was again promoted to Corporal and on 28 February 1844 he was awarded a second distinguishing mark (probably another Good Conduct Badge). From October 1844 he was posted to Sydney, though mostly on detachment at Newcastle.

    Between October and December 1844 he spent 57 days in hospital. Between January and March 1845 he spent a further 35 days in hospital. After 25 more days in hospital from 1 April he died on 25 May 1845. He had been promoted to Sergeant while in hospital on 30 April 1845, just three weeks before his death on 25 May 1845. It is interesting to speculate about this promotion for a moment. Perhaps his commanding officer saw the opportunity to secure a more generous pension for his widow but further research would be needed to establish this as fact. Perhaps he just wanted to wipe out the shame of his demotion six years earlier.

    Throughout his Army career John WESTWOOD seems to have been dogged by ill health. Soon after enlisting, between July and September 1826 he was hospitalised for 24 days; between January and March 1828, 28 days; between January and March 1833, 15 days; between January and March 1836, 45 days; between July and December 1838, 33 days; together with various shorter periods.

    As Sgt. WESTWOOD died while on active service no soldier's document was preserved, which is a great shame as it would have revealed much more interesting information.
    ____
    The burial of John James WESTWOOD

    John James WESTWOOD was buried at the Sandhills Cemetery, or as it was sometimes known the Old Devonshire Street Ground, which was located on what is now the site of Central Station, Sydney. In 1901, about 3300 monuments including the one belonging to JJW, were moved from the Sandhills Cemetery to a 25 acre site bounded by Bunnerong Road, La Perouse and the existing Botany Cemetery.

    The headstone is believed to have been in the Church of England section which is located close to Bunnerong Road. A transcription of the headstone is set out below.

    "John WESTWOOD, Sergeant of the 99th. Regt., died 25th. of May 1845, aged 38 years. Stone erected by his brother NCOs."

    Unfortunately, the headstone has not survived to the present day [1988] as friends visiting Sydney have looked for it without success. The ravages of time and particularly motor vehicle exhaust fumes are thought to have done the damage.

    ____
    FHL Number 560624 = christening record for John WESTWOOD.

    Military:
    When he was reduced to the ranks for embezzlement it appears that his sentence of three months detention was served on a prison hulk 'Cumberland' moored at Chatham in Kent.
    Source: UK, Prison Hulk Registers and letter books, 1802-1849.

    Emigration:
    Arrived in Sydney NSW on 28 Aug 1842.
    Into Place: Sydney NSW

    Buried:
    In 1901, about 3300 monuments including the one belonging to John James WESTWOOD were moved to a 25 acre site bounded by Bunnerong Road, La Perouse and the existing Botany Cemetery.

    The headstone is believed to have been in the Church of England section which is located close to Bunnerong Road. A transcription of the headstone is set out below:

    "John WESTWOOD, Sergeant of the 99th. Regt., died 25th. of May 1845, aged 38 years. Stone erected by his brother NCOs."

    Unfortunately, the headstone has not survived to the present day [1988] as friends visiting Sydney have looked for it without success. The ravages of time and particularly motor vehicle exhaust fumes are thought to have done the damage.

    John married ROACH Mary 17 Jan 1838, Fermoy COR. Mary (daughter of ROACH James and GLEESON Mary) was born Abt 1818, Fermoy COR; died 1 May 1892, Junction Hotel, Elizabeth Street, Melbourne VIC; was buried 3 May 1892, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  ROACH Mary was born Abt 1818, Fermoy COR (daughter of ROACH James and GLEESON Mary); died 1 May 1892, Junction Hotel, Elizabeth Street, Melbourne VIC; was buried 3 May 1892, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Mary DONOVAN
    • Name: Mary WESTWOOD
    • _UID: 0B21581A4E61438992B1001E4F9831B7491D
    • Emigration: 2 May 1842, Dublin IRE aboard the 'Isabella Watson'.

    Notes:

    Mary ROACH was probably born in Ballynamona near Fermoy, COR.

    Mary ROCHE secondly married Richard DONOVAN (shoemaker by trade) who was also a member of the 99th. Regiment very shortly after the demise of her first husband Sgt. John James WESTWOOD in 1845. Upon taking his discharge from the British Army, Richard DONOVAN (c. 1819-1863), joined the Victoria Police Force having a fairly chequered career.

    Emigration:
    Arrived in Sydney NSW on 28 Aug 1842.
    Into Place: Sydney NSW

    Buried:
    MGC-RC-Comp-L-No-361

    Notes:

    Married:
    Witnesses: Joseph CANTELLOW and Patrick ROCHE.

    Children:
    1. WESTWOOD Maria was born Abt 1839, Athlone and Drum ROS; died 28 Aug 1854, Police Barracks, Melbourne VIC; was buried 29 Aug 1854, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    2. WESTWOOD Jane was born Abt 1842; died Bef 1892.
    3. 3. WESTWOOD Alice Maria Selina was born Abt 1844, Sydney NSW; died 16 Jan 1883, Fitzroy VIC; was buried 17 Jan 1883, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.
    4. WESTWOOD John Joseph was born 2 Jul 1845, Sydney NSW; died 1 Dec 1891, Hobart TAS; was buried Dec 1891, Cornelian Bay (Hobart) Cemetery, New Town TAS.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  MCGINTY Andrew was born Abt 1765.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Cook
    • _UID: 279EA243837A4467957BAA1E04D1C68348C7

    Andrew — COMMINS Catherine. Catherine was born Abt 1765, Devlin WEM. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  COMMINS Catherine was born Abt 1765, Devlin WEM.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Catherine McGINTY
    • _UID: FF12920D5D5A43F48FBE8C970AC84361845B

    Children:
    1. 4. MCGINTY Edward was born Abt 1798, Athboy MEA; died 11 Aug 1871, Rowena Parade, Richmond VIC; was buried 13 Aug 1871, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.

  3. 10.  POTTERTON Henry was born Abt 1774, MEA (son of POTTERTON Thomas and WOOD Mary); died 29 Oct 1846, Athboy MEA; was buried Cal Oct 1846, St. James' (Church of Ireland) Churchyard, Athboy MEA.

    Notes:

    Buried:
    Inscription

    Flat Slab.

    beneath this stone
    rest the mortal remains of
    THOMAS POTTERTON
    of Balatalion, Co. Meath
    who departed this life
    Nov. 8 A.D. 1847 in his [?]1st year
    also those of his brother
    HENRY POTTERTON
    of Ballyfallon same county
    who departed this life
    Oct. 29 A.D. 1846 aged 72 years
    Eph. 2.

    here also lie interred
    ELEANORA ANNE
    widow of the above named
    THOMAS POTTERTON
    died August 15 1874 aged 86
    and two of their daughters
    ELIZABETH died April 11 1883 aged 65
    MARY died March 17 1887 aged 67
    as also their son
    ARTHUR POTTERTON
    of Cloneylogan Co. Meath
    born March 19 1828 died October 25 1890

    the righteous shall be had in
    everlasting remembrance
    Ps. 112. 6.

    here also rest
    HARLOE and EMILY IRWIN
    grandchildren of THOMAS & ELEANORA POTTERTON
    Matt. 1914

    Children:
    1. 5. POTTERTON Rose was born Abt 1810, Kildalkey MEA; died 8 Mar 1864, Dublin IRE.

  4. 12.  WESTWOOD John was born 1770.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: A84C4C2B3CCB44858C2B7590E86783743D93

    John married GLEDHILL Alice Bef 1803. [Group Sheet]


  5. 13.  GLEDHILL Alice

    Other Events:

    • Name: Alice WESTWOOD
    • _UID: A271021D98D741C7A661B97DFE09ECB68F79

    Children:
    1. WESTWOOD Martha was born Abt 1803, Huddersfield YKS; died 1877.
    2. 6. WESTWOOD John James was born 22 Dec 1808, Huddersfield YKS; died 25 May 1845, Sydney NSW; was buried 27 May 1845, Sandhills (Devonshire Street) Cemetery), Sydney NSW.

  6. 14.  ROACH James

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 52FA419E23424DFDA9D0E425786C1DA401C6

    James — GLEESON Mary. [Group Sheet]


  7. 15.  GLEESON Mary

    Other Events:

    • Name: Mary ROACH
    • _UID: 3EA07770D2DB48FA88E3849CE916E9A4CB42

    Children:
    1. 7. ROACH Mary was born Abt 1818, Fermoy COR; died 1 May 1892, Junction Hotel, Elizabeth Street, Melbourne VIC; was buried 3 May 1892, Melbourne General Cemetery, Carlton VIC.